1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Tonight on Unidentified. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 I approached and saw and recognized 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 that it was a terrestrial ship. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,000 I do believe that there are the UFOs. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Llo Elizondo expands his UFO investigation to South America. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Are they seeing the same thing in the skies that we are? 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 From never before seen video, 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,000 I saw this bright light, 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 and when I zoomed, I got to see this circular shape. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,000 To an alleged mid-air showdown with the UFO, 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Oscar Santamaria was given the opportunity 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 to shoot it down. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Is there a connection to ancient sightings? 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 They were being witnessed by these people 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 who've lived on this land for thousands of years. 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 And what can military officials there reveal? 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,000 They think that I'm covering up things, covering up. 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 What? 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 That for me was a drop the mic moment. 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Everything we know about UFOs is changing. 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Thanks to a team led by former Pentagon UFO investigator Llo Elizondo. 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 That is real, whatever that is. 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 And former top intelligence official Chris Mellon. 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 This is a current continuing phenomenon. 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 It's happening. It continues to happen. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 It's happening. It's happening. 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 It's happening. 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000 It's happening. 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It's happening. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,000 It's happening. 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 It's happening. It continues to happen. 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 They discovered five unique characteristics 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 that UFOs have in common. 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 They call the five observables 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 and released groundbreaking videos 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 that forced the Navy to admit its pilots 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 were coming face to face with unidentified objects. 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 The U.S. Navy made a shocking admission today. 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Strange flying objects caught on tape 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 by their own fighter pilots are in fact 41 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 UFOs. 42 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Something needs to be done. 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Now a new wave of military witnesses 44 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 is coming out of the shadows. 45 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 I'd be lying if I said I wasn't scared, Bliss. 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 I'd never seen anything move like that. 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Shape, size, speed, it's clearly unidentified. 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 The team is united on a new mission. 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Connect the dots to reveal the truth about UFOs. 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,000 This thing had no capability, like anything on Earth. 51 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 And warn the world about the dangers they might represent. 52 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Carl Sagan once famously said, 53 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 He was absolutely right. 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 But now we have the proof. 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Llew Elizondo is on a mission to South America, 57 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 known for being a UFO hotspot. 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Home to thousands of unexplained sightings. 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Chile, Argentina and Peru are at the center of the storm. 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000 In Chile, which is thought to have the most UFO sightings 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 of any country in the world, 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 a Navy helicopter recorded this UFO. 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 It's tic-tac-like shape, similar to objects reported 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 by U.S. Navy pilots. 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Look at the circle. 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 You don't know how to do it. 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 It's a mess. 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 It's a mess. 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Elizondo's first stop is Lima, Peru. 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Are they seeing the same thing in the skies that we are? 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 And if so, that's yet another piece of the puzzle, 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 that this is truly a global phenomenon. 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 He's learned there's a retired general 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 with an incredible story to tell. 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 I'm on my way to meet General Spicer now in San Isidro, 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 here in Lima, Peru. 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 This military officer happens to be a former general, 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 and this is an individual who's not only a trained observer, 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 he's also an instructor. 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 So he understands aircraft probably better than most people. 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 So, General Spicer, have you ever witnessed anything 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 that left you scratching your head, 83 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 wondering what the hell was that? 84 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Same. 85 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,000 We studied the entire personnel of the group 86 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,000 in the Air Base of La Jolla in Arequipa in the 1980s. 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 We appreciated the whole procedure 88 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 that my student Oscar Santamaria had done. 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 April 11th, 1980, 90 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 La Jolla Air Force Base in southern Peru. 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Spicer and a young lieutenant named Oscar Santamaria 92 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 are lined up for inspection 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 when a strange report comes in. 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 A large glowing object is hovering 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 outside the base's restricted airspace 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 and isn't responding to radio commands to identify itself. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 A large glowing object is hovering 98 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 outside the base's restricted airspace 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,000 and isn't responding to radio commands to identify itself. 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,000 You're talking about almost 2,000 people in formation 101 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 standing on an airfield 102 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 watching as Oscar Santamaria was scramble to go intercept this thing. 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Santamaria takes off on a Sukhoi Su-22. 104 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Part of a fleet of advanced fighters, 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Peru had recently purchased from the Soviet Union. 106 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,000 A Sukhoi-22 supersonic swing-wing aircraft variable geometry wing. 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,000 One of the most advanced aircrafts in the world 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 as Santamaria's Soviet made jet screams over the base. 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,000 He maneuvers to get a visual on the strange object. 110 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 The object is a semi-mapalium 111 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 and all of that is supported by a wide-angle base of metal. 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 It had a kind of shine around the ship. 113 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 It was like a kind of halo. 114 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 A bright halo. 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 And it was immense compared to the aircraft. 116 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Back at base, the giant glowing object was considered a threat 117 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 that needed to be taken out. 118 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Oscar Santamaria was given the order 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 to shoot it down if it is in ours. 120 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Santamaria says the object accelerated to more than 1200 miles per hour, 121 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 that suddenly stopped in midair. 122 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 And every time he tries to get close to the object, what happens? 123 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 The object moves away. He can't get close. 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 He surpassed the characteristics that the supersonic wing had. 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 I mean, it was much more powerful. 126 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 He was able to shoot a raffle of 64 buses, 127 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 hoping that the balloon would explode. 128 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Santamaria says he fired off round after round, 129 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,000 but the object appeared to absorb the fire with no visible damage. 130 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,000 It didn't explode and it started to accelerate as fast as possible. 131 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,000 No obvious signs of propulsion, no engine, no exhaust, 132 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 no jet plume or anything else that you would normally associate 133 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 with the traditional aircraft. 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,000 The smooth orb-like object, which outmaneuvered Santamaria's fighter jet, 135 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 is displaying two of the five observables identified by Elizondo 136 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 as being common to UFOs. 137 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Instantaneous acceleration, the ability to immediately achieve high speeds. 138 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,000 And anti-gravity, the ability to fly without apparent propulsion or lift. 139 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:09,000 A lot of what they're telling me does reaffirm information we've already had, 140 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 particularly on the five observables, 141 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 continue to be reinforced during my engagement down here. 142 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,000 So that, for me, is encouraging because it shows that we're on the right track. 143 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,000 After he returned to base, Santamaria created this sketch, 144 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 which shows an object that by all known laws of physics, 145 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,000 should not be able to fly or absorb gunfire. 146 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Documents show a confidential source inside the Peruvian Air Force 147 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 reported the incident to the U.S. Embassy in Lima, 148 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 which notified the Pentagon. 149 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Why? 150 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 One theory is that the object Santamaria saw is not alien, 151 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 but American made. 152 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Bill Scott is an expert on top-secret aircraft 153 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 and was an editor at Aviation Week. 154 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 He believes the object could be related to a U.S. effort 155 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 to spy on the Soviet presence in Peru. 156 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 We had some satellite surveillance, of course, 157 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 but you can fly some kind of reconnaissance aircraft over, 158 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 get some pretty solid pictures. 159 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 That's even better. 160 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 In 1980, the Cold War was burning hot again, 161 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 and the Soviet-made Sukhoi Su-22, 162 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 that Oscar Santamaria was flying, 163 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 was one of the most advanced aircraft ever delivered to South America. 164 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Did the U.S. send some kind of advanced surveillance craft 165 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,000 to monitor the Peruvian Air Force's new capabilities? 166 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Some of the vehicles that they might use, drones of some sort, 167 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 they didn't care if they were seen. 168 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,000 They wanted not only, let's say, the South American country, 169 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 but they also wanted to sponsor the Soviets 170 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 to know we're keeping an eye on you. 171 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Five years earlier in Vietnam, 172 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 the U.S. was using a drone called the Ryan 147 Lightning Bug. 173 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,000 They used Ryan 147 for a number of reconnaissance roles, 174 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,000 so they were just jet-powered, rail-launched. 175 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 They put cameras on them, 176 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 and eventually, over the years, 177 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 they would put a lot of electronics on there. 178 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Could what Santamaria saw have been an advanced version of the Ryan 147? 179 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 I don't think there would be any of these lightning bug drones, 180 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 because they were a lot more aircraft-like. 181 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 They had wings on them, long fuselages, 182 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,000 typically had an under-shin inlet. 183 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 What was the bizarre object that was allegedly impervious 184 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 to Oscar Santamaria's machine-gun fire? 185 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,000 And could Llew Elizondo connect the dots to a sighting 40 years later, 186 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 seen in this never-before-released video? 187 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,000 I think each individual is a critical piece to this jigsaw puzzle. 188 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 If it's not for their testimony, then we're missing a critical piece. 189 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Ultimately, you can't put together a puzzle unless you have all the pieces. 190 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Llew Elizondo has just met with a pilot 191 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,000 who says he engaged in a mid-air showdown with a UFO in southern Peru in 1980. 192 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,000 One theory is that the object was a U.S. reconnaissance drone, 193 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 but the primitive drones at that time 194 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 don't match the pilot's description of what he saw. 195 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I didn't see wings, I didn't see engines, antennas, windows, cupboards, anything. 196 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 It was smooth everywhere. 197 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,000 And now, a commercial pilot has come forward with a similar sighting in 2019. 198 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 We're just gonna mic you up over here really quick. 199 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 He's asked not to be identified. 200 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:00,000 I want to thank you very much for having the courage to come forward. 201 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Thank you. 202 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 In this particular case, this individual wants to keep his identity protected 203 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 because he was afraid he may lose his job. 204 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 First of all, what kind of pilot are you? What do you fly? 205 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 I'm an airline captain. 206 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,000 I fly for a big carrier, and I fly an Airbus A320. 207 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,000 The pilot has flown domestic and international flights for the past 11 years. 208 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 It happened on March 1st, 2019. 209 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,000 I was flying to Argentina. It was a red-eye flight in the middle of the night. 210 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:37,000 At about 2 a.m., his Airbus A320 is flying at 35,000 feet, 211 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 approximately 150 miles off the coast of Chile. 212 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,000 As a pilot, you're kind of used to seeing like shining stars, ISS. 213 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,000 I've actually been lucky to see some meteors come in, which are very small, 214 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 which have this green color. 215 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,000 But this time, he sees a bright white orb tracking the plane to the west. 216 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,000 I saw this bright light, and I was like, OK, what is this? 217 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,000 I took out my phone, and when I zoomed, I got to see this circular shape. 218 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 If you want to see it, I can show you the video. 219 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 I would love to see that video. 220 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 The pilot plays the video for Elizondo. 221 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 It appears to show an orb inside another orb. 222 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,000 It started like moving in a wave pattern, from left to right, right to left. 223 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 It was definitely bigger than the 747. 224 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,000 The pilot pans to the radar screen to record his exact location. 225 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Glad he did that. That's smart. 226 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,000 That's the only way I think to have evidence where it was, what altitude it was. 227 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,000 How long did you observe this light outside the cockpit window? 228 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Five minutes. 229 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Wow, OK. 230 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 What it is, I don't know. 231 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 What you feel there, it's a real object. 232 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Now, I don't know what it is, but you have that's something that actually occurred. 233 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Now, maybe it has a terrestrial explanation, maybe it doesn't, 234 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,000 but one thing we do know is that is real, whatever that is. 235 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 But what was it? 236 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,000 The pilot shares a video that appears to be of the same object, 237 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:12,000 taken two days earlier and nearly 2,000 miles away, over Peru's largest airport. 238 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 This is actually what happened in Lima. 239 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 What happened in Lima? 240 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Look, it's a plane. 241 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Look, it's a plane. 242 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Well, I don't know, I don't know. 243 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Look at this. 244 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Shit, it's a plane. 245 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 No, it's a plane. 246 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Shit, it's a plane. 247 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Look at this. 248 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 The Peruvian Air Force investigated the incident, 249 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,000 concluding they were unable to identify the orbs seen over the airport. 250 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 That is a pretty bizarre looking craft. 251 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 That isn't like anything that we have. 252 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 But one theory may provide a simple explanation. 253 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Over the past decade, Google has launched a fleet of high altitude balloons 254 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,000 to provide internet access to remote areas around the world. 255 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Called Project Loom, these large white balloons fly above Peru as high as 65,000 feet 256 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,000 and could have floated from Peru to Chile. 257 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 So they have Google balloons all around Peru. 258 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000 They stay a certain amount of time and after that, they go down to the air. 259 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,000 So if this was, let's say, one of these balloons, 260 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 would you have been made aware of it by ATC? 261 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Totally. 262 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Totally. 263 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Because it's in our flight safety issue? 264 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Of course, yeah. 265 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 At this point, it's too early to tell if what the pilot saw is indeed the same objects 266 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,000 that were reported over the Lima airport just days prior. 267 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,000 There are some people that are absolutely confident it was a Google balloon. 268 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,000 There's other people that said there was no Google balloons in that area. 269 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,000 So I think it's too premature to tell. 270 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 The cell phone video makes it difficult to tell 271 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,000 if the object displays any of the five observables common to UFOs. 272 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:56,000 So Elizondo sends it to retired Marine Lieutenant Colonel Chris Cook, 273 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,000 an aviation consultant and former Top Gun pilot. 274 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Hey there, Chris. 275 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Hey, little how are you? 276 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,000 I'm doing pretty good. 277 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Elizondo wants to know if the strange object in the video 278 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 looks like anything Cook has seen before. 279 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Can an aircraft commercial or military look like that from far away? 280 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Typically, you would see navigation lights, right? 281 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,000 One of the things that we do when we're at altitude, 282 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 especially flying out in the middle of nowhere, 283 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 if you do spot another aircraft, 284 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 determining lights or the landing lights on, 285 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 it's kind of like a courtesy. 286 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,000 I've never seen anything like that where it's just one spherical light 287 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,000 outside of maybe a bright planet. 288 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Elizondo wants to explore the theory that the object might be a Google balloon. 289 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 I've heard of these things, 290 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,000 but why would a balloon be illuminated that brightly at that altitude? 291 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,000 And if it is a balloon, then you would expect there to be some closure on it, right? 292 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Because it should be stationary, so it's a little baffling. 293 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,000 One of the statements the pilot made to me is that he had the impression 294 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 that there was this oscillation. 295 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Do you have any idea at all what might give the appearance of some sort of oscillation? 296 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Are there aircraft that will pivot back and forth? 297 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Not in my experience. 298 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,000 I have not ever witnessed any type of aircraft at that altitude 299 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 that have those characteristics that you just explained. 300 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 But does it show any of the five observables? 301 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 When I look at these incidents, I'm not just looking at video, 302 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,000 I'm comparing it to the five observables, 303 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 extreme acceleration and hypersonic velocities and no control surface, flight surfaces, 304 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 no obvious means of thrust or propulsion. 305 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Is there anything in that video that you see that you say, 306 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,000 aha, that's an unusual performance characteristic? 307 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 This looks like nothing I've ever seen. 308 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 What's the likelihood that this could be a traditional aircraft? 309 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Scale of 1 to 10. 310 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Zero. 311 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Wow. 312 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,000 To cook, the object clearly isn't a traditional aircraft, but what is it? 313 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:09,000 In this particular case, there's information out there that does not neatly fit 314 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,000 within the categories of information we have. 315 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Does it mean it's not relevant? 316 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 No, we have to take all the data points. 317 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Maybe it'll make sense. 318 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Maybe there's more than the five observables. 319 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:27,000 The Lima Airport incident is just one of dozens of UFOs the Peruvian Air Force has investigated 320 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,000 and then released their findings to the public. 321 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,000 It's a level of transparency Alizando thinks the US can learn from. 322 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,000 When you look at a map and you remove all those national lines, we're all connected, 323 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 we're all Americans, and at the end of the day, it's really coming upon all of us 324 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 to protect this hemisphere from anything and everything. 325 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,000 It's the Peruvian Air Force's Centennial Conference and Alizando's embarrassed 326 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000 and Alizando's invited to speak to a group of airmen. 327 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,000 There are things in our airspace that are indeed unidentified and they are real. 328 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:03,000 We are observing vehicles or objects that have no control surfaces, no wings, 329 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 and no visible form of propulsion. 330 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,000 My only purpose really for being here is not to make you believe, 331 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 it's to ask you to report. 332 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,000 When word of Alizando's talk reaches the highest office, 333 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,000 he's called to a meeting with the head of the Air Force. 334 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,000 General Garcia is responsible for protecting the airspace over Peru. 335 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:31,000 That includes every mission from counterterrorism to counter-narcotics to surveillance. 336 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:36,000 He has a huge responsibility and ultimately the buck stops with him. 337 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 So this is for me a very important meeting. 338 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,000 It's a major step in Alizando's quest to exchange information 339 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 with military leaders here. 340 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:51,000 General, I'm coming here to you as a citizen of the United States and a citizen of the world. 341 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,000 My ultimate goal for meeting with you is simply to emphasize our willingness 342 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,000 to work with Peru in a cooperative relationship. 343 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,000 I would like to congratulate you because you are doing a great work. 344 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,000 You will have the opportunity to talk with other officers. 345 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,000 The general in Alizando discuss how the U.S. and Peru can jointly investigate 346 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,000 unidentified aerial phenomena and how to share their findings. 347 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:46,000 I'm very pleased that you agree that this should be an international cooperative effort. 348 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Thank you very much. 349 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 And thank you so much. 350 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Thank you. 351 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000 And a lot of pleasure. 352 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Thank you. 353 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:01,000 But for now, for Alizando, the origins of the glowing orbs is still a mystery. 354 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Could there be a clue in a series of unusual orbs sightings spanning generations? 355 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 He's on his way to find out. 356 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:20,000 While we were in AT&T, we cast a very wide net and we had some information pertaining to Latin America. 357 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,000 But that information was provided to us via other individuals. 358 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Lou Alizando was traveling from Peru to Argentina to investigate a series of UFO sightings in South America. 359 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Here in Patagonia, people have been reporting similar lights in the sky for centuries. 360 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Local residents say they typically look like fiery orbs. 361 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:06,000 The lights that are always seen in the field, the lights that float on the ground, are the antimalans. 362 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000 They are spirits that are part of our culture. 363 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Recently, new lights have appeared in the sky, further down the road. 364 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Andrea Morales explains. 365 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 What did you think when you saw this light? 366 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 We thought it was a car. 367 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:31,000 The height of the road that passed through there, as it started to rise, we were shocked because we didn't know what it was. 368 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:39,000 The light was turning and it was focusing upwards and as they started to descend, it was placed above the place. 369 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,000 It's something supernatural. 370 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Could these spinning lights be the same objects seen over Chile? 371 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Alizando uncovers an interesting lead. 372 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:58,000 According to eyewitnesses, the appearance of spinning lights coincided with a foreign object of a different kind. 373 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:04,000 I was very surprised to hear that there is a highly sophisticated Chinese satellite ground station, 374 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,000 literally plopped in the middle of nowhere next to the town of Las Lajas. 375 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 The question is, what in the hell is it doing here? 376 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:20,000 China spent $50 million to build a 16-story antenna and mission control facility. 377 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:26,000 The compound is 40 minutes from the nearest town and secured behind an 8-foot barbed wire fence. 378 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Its stated purpose, to help the Chinese land a spacecraft on the far side of the moon. 379 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 China is an emerging superpower. 380 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:44,000 If you're trying to gather telemetry, say, over the southern hemisphere, you need a ground station with line of sight. 381 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:50,000 So as they become more active in space, they need footholds in parts of the region, 382 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000 parts of the world that they didn't have in the past. 383 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000 The local police have informed us that they're not even allowed on the property or even near it. 384 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000 The only involvement they had was initially when it was being built during construction. 385 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:08,000 U.S. officials believe the 450-ton antenna could be used to spy on other countries' satellite communications, 386 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,000 but is it connected to the appearance of the spinning lights seen by locals? 387 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Could the lights be advanced surveillance craft sent by the Americans to keep tabs on the Chinese? 388 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Or are the Chinese the ones watching the new lights in the sky? 389 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Why is there a Chinese ground station here? 390 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Why is everybody so secretive about it? 391 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 They have an overt mission, then they have another mission, apparently. 392 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:39,000 For Elizondo, the mystery deepens with reports of similar orbs seen nearby in Buenos Aires decades earlier. 393 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Today, he's on his way to investigate. 394 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,000 What Lou's doing on these trips is consistent with what he did in the Defense Department. 395 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Anything we can do to help establish the validity of this so that people have permission to engage on the topic, 396 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,000 move forward to get scientific and national security answers, contributes to that effort. 397 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Elizondo's hoping to get answers from two pilots who had one of South America's most mysterious UFO sightings. 398 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:14,000 I'm here to have a meeting with Commander Hector Flores and his co-pilot. 399 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 He was a commander in the National Guard here in Argentina, 400 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000 and apparently him and his co-pilot were witness to a very interesting event, 401 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000 which included potentially some sort of engagement with the UAP. 402 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Well, hopefully we'll be able to see if there's any similarities to some of the other engages we've already talked to other people about. 403 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Lou Elizondo is in Argentina on a mission to investigate multiple sightings of strange orbs across South America. 404 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:55,000 He's meeting with two pilots, whose bizarre 1972 encounter had been kept secret for 40 years. 405 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,000 I'm here this afternoon to meet with Hector Flores and his co-pilot. 406 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,000 They were serving under a dictatorship here in Argentina. 407 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,000 These were tumultuous times for Latin America and Argentina in particular. 408 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,000 A military junta had taken over and had its sights set on becoming the region's superpower. 409 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:37,000 National Guard pilot Hector Flores and Jorge Torresia were on a routine training flight with a student when they witnessed something extraordinary. 410 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 We were also on a training flight. 411 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 We saw some lights at the 20-30s. 412 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 So we said, you saw what we saw? 413 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Yes. 414 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,000 The pilots say a large red and blue orb suddenly appeared over their plane. 415 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,000 We received a new color substitute. 416 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:18,300 they come back down and keep us on our backs. 417 00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:23,240 We were then haha 418 00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:25,540 on our way back. 419 00:27:25,660 --> 00:27:28,540 We were going to free ourselves 420 00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:31,580 of those objects up there 421 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:35,740 until we spread out as soon as we arrived. 422 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:41,320 They're describing characteristics 423 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,560 that we haven't yet seen or at least didn't come through 424 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,660 ATIP channels in North America, 425 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:53,360 particularly those that really tend to loiter for a long time. 426 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,860 Who's to say that there's only five observables? 427 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,280 The two men created this drawing of the object. 428 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,780 But when their report reached base officials, 429 00:28:04,780 --> 00:28:06,740 they were ordered to keep silent, 430 00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:09,320 and the truth about what happened was buried. 431 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,820 Gracias, amigo. 432 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,920 We're headed to the Condor Building, 433 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,120 the nerve center of the Air Force here for this country. 434 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,720 Elizondo's herd answers to what happened back in 1972 435 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,200 may be found here, 436 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,940 in Argentina's official UFO program. 437 00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:32,240 Colonel Ruben Leonza heads the Air Force unit. 438 00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:36,240 We are neither debunkers nor believers. 439 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Since we are not chasing the paranormal 440 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,060 nor are afraid of encountering something inexplicable. 441 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:47,300 He says the 1972 incident can be explained by an event 442 00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:48,800 that happened the same night. 443 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,580 On November 2nd, Argentina's junta 444 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:56,080 launched a rocket into the upper atmosphere. 445 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,820 It was part of a lead-up to a secret missile program, 446 00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:00,820 and the pilot's testimony was sealed 447 00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:02,080 in a classified report. 448 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,160 And this is the unclassified file. 449 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,840 They said, we saw the object heading, 450 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,400 as in 320, that is exactly northwest, 451 00:29:14,380 --> 00:29:18,320 and up to 25 degrees above the horizon. 452 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,980 It's plenty coincident with the only sector of the sky 453 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:24,260 where that cloud should be. 454 00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:26,720 The launch left a cloud of barium gas 455 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,820 that created a strange purple haze in the sky. 456 00:29:29,820 --> 00:29:32,600 You can see the deployment of the barium cloud here 457 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,560 falling down as it ionizes the gas on top of it. 458 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Ionized gas is the red one, non-ionized gas is the blue one, 459 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,880 and as it falls, there is a purple belt in the center. 460 00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:48,760 Like many UFO stories in South America, 461 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,960 this case was wrapped up in military secrets. 462 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,860 It often takes time, but Leonza says he's found explanations 463 00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:58,420 for every case that's come across his desk. 464 00:29:58,420 --> 00:29:59,500 Right. 465 00:29:59,540 --> 00:30:02,980 Are you 100% sure that all of those 466 00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:05,180 you have 100% answer on? 467 00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:06,380 Misperceptions. 468 00:30:06,380 --> 00:30:09,620 It's 99.9% of the cases. 469 00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:11,260 Leonza's program may be similar 470 00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:13,300 to Elizondo's Pentagon unit. 471 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,260 And is this an Argentine capability you have here? 472 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:19,020 But their conclusions could not be more different. 473 00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:21,540 We're constantly looking for new data, new data points. 474 00:30:21,540 --> 00:30:23,580 Is there a recommendation you would have? 475 00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:25,300 I don't think, with all due respect, 476 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:28,340 you are going to find the holy grail of UFO evidence, 477 00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:31,020 not even in the X files that are in a drawer 478 00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:33,260 in the Armed Forces of South America. 479 00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:35,220 The fact that the case is not solved 480 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:39,060 is not a guarantee of paranormal explanations for that. 481 00:30:39,060 --> 00:30:42,180 You know, all crafts have to damp the remaining fuel. 482 00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:43,300 Right, bleed it out. 483 00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:44,700 Bleed it out. 484 00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,180 I think the approach has to be changed, 485 00:30:47,180 --> 00:30:51,460 and it has to be changed towards the scientific method. 486 00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:57,060 Your approach, it makes sense, it's logical, it's unbiased. 487 00:30:57,060 --> 00:30:59,500 If you ever talk to the independent witnesses, 488 00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:02,020 I will appreciate it if you tell the same words to them 489 00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:05,900 because they think that I'm covering up things, covering up. 490 00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:09,620 You can close 100% of your investigations 491 00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:12,140 to 100% of your satisfaction, but what does that mean? 492 00:31:12,140 --> 00:31:14,060 I believe you've closed them all. 493 00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:15,700 I'm not sure he's solved them all. 494 00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:16,540 Thank you again. 495 00:31:16,540 --> 00:31:17,380 Thank you. 496 00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:24,180 Lou Elizondo is in South America 497 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:27,460 to investigate a rash of orb-shaped UFO sightings 498 00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:31,020 and learn what they can reveal about the UFO phenomenon. 499 00:31:31,020 --> 00:31:32,700 Elizondo's just met with the head 500 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,100 of Argentina's UFO Investigation Agency. 501 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,620 The colonel claims that all of the country's thousands 502 00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:41,460 of sightings can be identified. 503 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:46,460 Are you 100% sure that all of those you have 100% answer on? 504 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:51,420 Misperceptions, it's 99.9% of the cases. 505 00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:54,100 Elizondo wants to know what other governments here 506 00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:56,580 can reveal about UFOs. 507 00:31:56,580 --> 00:32:00,020 He's in Uruguay at the General Artigas Air Force Base, 508 00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:02,820 home to the longest-running official UFO program 509 00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:06,340 in Latin America, dating to the 1970s. 510 00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:09,180 This is an effort that has been going on now 511 00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:11,020 for a better part of 40 years 512 00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:13,220 and actually tends to be a gold standard. 513 00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:18,260 Colonel Ariel Sanchez and Captain Marcos Tamesio 514 00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:21,860 run the program and have agreed to share their secrets. 515 00:32:21,860 --> 00:32:23,260 Good morning. 516 00:32:23,260 --> 00:32:25,260 My name is Luis Elizondo. 517 00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:26,260 Thank you, friend. 518 00:32:29,780 --> 00:32:30,780 Great to see you. 519 00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:31,780 Great to see you too. 520 00:32:31,780 --> 00:32:32,780 Hey. 521 00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:33,780 Great, absolutely. 522 00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:35,780 Thank you very much for having us here. 523 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:39,780 Since 1979, in 2018, 524 00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:43,780 we have investigated 1,490 cases. 525 00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:47,860 Of those cases, we have 45 cases 526 00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:49,380 of high level of strangeness 527 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:53,380 that we have catalogued as unconventional cases. 528 00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:58,380 Elizondo asks if there have been any orb sightings. 529 00:32:58,380 --> 00:33:01,380 In 2011, a luminous object 530 00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,380 that went through a lot of the coast 531 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:06,380 was observed by dozens of people. 532 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:08,380 It was filmed and photographed. 533 00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:14,380 Colonel Sanchez breezed Elizondo on a case from 2011 534 00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:17,380 where a bright sphere was seen over Montevideo 535 00:33:17,380 --> 00:33:19,380 and captured on video. 536 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:21,380 The object has never been identified. 537 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:23,380 During my time in the U.S. government, 538 00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:26,380 I realized very quickly it's imperative 539 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:28,380 that you have partnerships and relationships 540 00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:29,380 with other countries. 541 00:33:29,380 --> 00:33:31,380 The more people that we can talk to 542 00:33:31,380 --> 00:33:34,380 and get more perspectives that we can gain, 543 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:35,380 the better off we're going to be. 544 00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:37,380 Following the presentation, 545 00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:39,380 Elizondo sits down with Colonel Sanchez 546 00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:42,380 and Captain Tamesio, who drop a bombshell 547 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:44,380 on why they believe the program was created. 548 00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:50,380 They produced the largest wave of sightings 549 00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:53,380 that sparked the interest of a lot of civil researchers 550 00:33:53,380 --> 00:33:55,380 on the UFO issue. 551 00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:58,380 At the beginning of 1979, 552 00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:02,380 the Air Force Commander met with the United States 553 00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:06,380 of North America's Air Force. 554 00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:10,380 He asked the Air Force if we could create 555 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:13,380 an official commission depending on the Air Force. 556 00:34:18,380 --> 00:34:21,380 That for me was a drop the mic moment. 557 00:34:21,380 --> 00:34:24,380 You mean to tell me that the longest standing 558 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:27,380 official UFO investigative agency 559 00:34:27,380 --> 00:34:29,380 in the Latin American hemisphere 560 00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:31,380 was allegedly created at the behest 561 00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:34,380 of the U.S. government at the time? 562 00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:36,380 What? 563 00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:38,380 Elizondo sees a connection 564 00:34:38,380 --> 00:34:41,380 to America's legendary UFO program, 565 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:43,380 Project Blue Book. 566 00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:45,380 So it's okay for you U.S. government to go down 567 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:48,380 to Latin America and say, 568 00:34:48,380 --> 00:34:50,380 we're going to take our Project Blue Book 569 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:53,380 and all the methodologies that we use investigative. 570 00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:55,380 We're going to give you the handbook 571 00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:57,380 and you're going to use that 572 00:34:57,380 --> 00:34:59,380 and you're going to establish your own program. 573 00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:01,380 Project Blue Book was a series of UFO studies 574 00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:03,380 begun by the Air Force in 1952 575 00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:06,380 in response to a rash of UFO sightings. 576 00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:08,380 For the next 17 years, 577 00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:10,380 Blue Book studied over 12,000 sightings 578 00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:14,380 and found 701 cases that could not be explained. 579 00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:16,380 And the Air Force officially shut down 580 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:19,380 Project Blue Book in 1969. 581 00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:22,380 But has Elizondo discovered the U.S. 582 00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:24,380 continued to secretly study UFOs 583 00:35:24,380 --> 00:35:26,380 with the help of other countries? 584 00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:28,380 The fact that we asked Uruguay to establish a program 585 00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:30,380 is absolutely indicative that we thought 586 00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:32,380 it was interesting as well on our end 587 00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:34,380 that we should be looking at these things. 588 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:36,380 You think we're going to go ahead and tell a country 589 00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:38,380 to do something, but we're not going to look at it ourselves 590 00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:40,380 or want their information? Come on. 591 00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:42,380 That's not the way it works. 592 00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:45,380 As part of the ongoing Cold War, 593 00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:48,380 South America just became an intense flashpoint. 594 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:50,380 It was feared that the Soviet bloc 595 00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:54,380 could then get a foothold on the American continent. 596 00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:56,380 Researchers like Mark Pilkington 597 00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:58,380 believe the U.S. may have quietly helped set up 598 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:01,380 UFO programs around the world, 599 00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:03,380 not as a way to look for aliens, 600 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:05,380 but to monitor our enemies. 601 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:09,380 It's long been suggested that a number of the larger 602 00:36:09,380 --> 00:36:11,380 UFO groups were actually set up 603 00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:14,380 to provide some eyes on the sky 604 00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:16,380 for the intelligence services. 605 00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:19,380 Our government relies heavily on our allies 606 00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:22,380 for intelligence collection around the world, 607 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:25,380 so it doesn't surprise me to hear that they would be 608 00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:27,380 encouraging the Uruguayan government to collect 609 00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:30,380 more information and assuming that it would be shared with us. 610 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:33,380 Did the U.S. take it even further? 611 00:36:33,380 --> 00:36:35,380 Actively encouraging UFO sightings 612 00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:38,380 to distract attention from covert operations in the region? 613 00:36:38,380 --> 00:36:41,380 Ideas of UFOs and extraterrestrial visitations 614 00:36:41,380 --> 00:36:45,380 have been eagerly adopted over past decades 615 00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,380 all over South America, 616 00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:50,380 and we might ask to what extent those ideas were planted 617 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:52,380 as part of disinformation 618 00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:55,380 or clandestine intelligence operations. 619 00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:58,380 But even if the U.S. had covert motives, 620 00:36:58,380 --> 00:37:01,380 how can that explain the thousands of sightings 621 00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:04,380 across South America going back decades? 622 00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:13,380 I believe every time we engage a foreign partner on this topic, 623 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:16,380 it helps us in our ultimate endeavor 624 00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:19,380 for international cooperation on this. 625 00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:22,380 Lou Elizondo has traveled thousands of miles 626 00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:24,380 across an entire continent, 627 00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:27,380 trying to unravel the truth about South America's thousands 628 00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:29,380 of UFO sightings. 629 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,380 My motivation for going down to South America 630 00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:34,380 was I wanted to know what they've learned. 631 00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:36,380 He's spoken to several eyewitnesses 632 00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:40,380 with incredible stories of orb-shaped UFO encounters. 633 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:44,380 La Parque de Arriba, la Roja, la Parque de Abajo Azul. 634 00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:47,380 Some suggest the sightings can be explained 635 00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:49,380 by U.S. intelligence tracking the activities 636 00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:51,380 of adversaries in the region. 637 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:55,380 We shouldn't be a tall surprise to find that those ideas 638 00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:58,380 were planted as part of disinformation. 639 00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:00,380 Others by high-tech explanations. 640 00:38:00,380 --> 00:38:02,380 So they have Google balloons all around Peru. 641 00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:04,380 They stay a certain amount of time, 642 00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:06,380 and after that, they go down to the Earth. 643 00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:09,380 But other sightings are not so easily identified. 644 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:12,380 Anywhere in the world we investigate this phenomenon, 645 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:15,380 we're going to find most reports 646 00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:18,380 have some sort of conventional explanation. 647 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:22,380 What's interesting are the reports that don't, 648 00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,380 that we can't explain away. 649 00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:27,380 Like the orb that pilot Oscar Centimaria 650 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:29,380 shot at over Peru in 1980. 651 00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:31,380 No obvious scientific propulsion, 652 00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:34,380 no engine, no exhaust, no jet plume, 653 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,380 or anything else that you would normally associate 654 00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:38,380 with a traditional aircraft. 655 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:42,380 And what can account for the glowing orbs 656 00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:44,380 that the Mapuche people of Patagonia 657 00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:46,380 have seen in the sky for centuries, 658 00:38:46,380 --> 00:38:48,380 and a recent wave of sightings? 659 00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:51,380 Could there be some sort of Google balloon 660 00:38:51,380 --> 00:38:53,380 used to provide telecommunications 661 00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:55,380 to remote areas of Patagonia? 662 00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:58,380 I think it's a good idea to have a Google balloon 663 00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:02,380 to make telecommunications to remote areas of Patagonia. 664 00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:04,380 But then again, you know, Google balloons 665 00:39:04,380 --> 00:39:07,380 don't make right angles and fly over the horizon 666 00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:09,380 in the blink of an eye. 667 00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:11,380 I'm just as perplexed now 668 00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:13,380 than I was before I went down. 669 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:17,380 Do these incidents show that UFOs 670 00:39:17,380 --> 00:39:20,380 have an unusually strong interest in South America? 671 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:22,380 Or are the people of South America 672 00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:24,380 more willing to believe in them? 673 00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:26,380 Throughout South America, 674 00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:29,380 the mainstream media provides greater coverage 675 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:31,380 to incidents that occur in those nations. 676 00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:35,380 So this is more openly accepted and discussed. 677 00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:39,380 For Elizondo and his team, 678 00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:41,380 one sighting may be an anomaly, 679 00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:43,380 two a coincidence, 680 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:46,380 but multiple sightings across several countries 681 00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:48,380 and hundreds of years is a pattern 682 00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:50,380 that cannot be ignored. 683 00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:53,380 There have been enough extraordinary sightings 684 00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:56,380 that were corroborated by many witnesses 685 00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:58,380 and fighter aircraft 686 00:39:58,380 --> 00:40:01,380 that there is a category there, I would say, 687 00:40:01,380 --> 00:40:04,380 that seems to correspond to what our Navy 688 00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:06,380 has revealed and spoken about. 689 00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:09,380 This area may indeed be a hotspot. 690 00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:13,380 There has been a lot of activity there 691 00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:16,380 and it answers one of the big questions 692 00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:18,380 that people often have is, 693 00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:20,380 is this a U.S. only phenomenon? 694 00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:23,380 Or is it a reality that is not? 695 00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:26,380 Or is it a reality that is not? 696 00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:29,380 Or is it a reality that is not? 697 00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:32,380 Elizondo says he'll continue his search for answers 698 00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:34,380 wherever it leads him. 699 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:36,380 A lot of what they're telling me 700 00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:40,380 does reaffirm information we've already had. 701 00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:42,380 So that, for me, is encouraging 702 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:45,380 because it shows that we are on the right path. 703 00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:47,380 I think you need to go into this 704 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:50,380 especially when you come from a background like I have 705 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:53,380 where you've seen a lot of things. 706 00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:55,380 It's, yeah, it's really tough. 707 00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:58,380 You have told me before that you've had your own sighting. 708 00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:00,380 Do you believe they're real? 709 00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:03,380 You know what? 710 00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:07,380 With all due respect, I'm not going to answer that question. 711 00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:11,380 What impacted me the most about my trip to South America 712 00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:14,380 was the realization that they want to cooperate 713 00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:16,380 with the United States. 714 00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:18,380 Because it is a global phenomenon, 715 00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:20,380 it requires a global discussion. 716 00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:23,380 Knowing more about the UAP phenomena 717 00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:25,380 may solve some of the world's problems, 718 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:27,380 but it also may create more problems. 719 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:29,380 I think it's too early to tell. 720 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:31,380 But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter 721 00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:34,380 because whatever is the truth, that's what we need to find. 722 00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:36,380 Leaving our heads buried into sands 723 00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:38,380 is just avoiding the inevitable.